Welcome! this is Ghost_nappa here with my first of what I am dubbing a "thread Blog". You probably cmae to this thread becasue you asked your self "What the heck is FOG?". Well, there is an easy way for me to answer your question: http://www.fieldofglory.com/introduction.html My expirenece so far This game is not for the faint of heart, but it is much cheeper than many other wargames that I ahve seen. It seems to have a steep learning curve. But I think this is becasue the rules are very "tight" Menaing that there is a rule for everything. I really like this game and I think that I will enjoy teaching it to otheres who Like Acient to medieval history and want to see if they can command better that the best and have chinese fight romans or Masidoinas fight late middle ages spainsh. A Mighty Long List Here is a list of all of the armys tat are covered by FOG: Bulgar, Early 631 AD – 1018 AD Decline & Fall p. 36 Bulgarian, Later 1300 AD – 1395 AD Eternal Empire p. 29 Bulgarian, Middle 1186 AD – 1300 AD Swords & Scimitars p. 42 Burgundi 260 AD – 534 AD Legions Triumphant p. 59 Burgundian, Medieval 1363 AD – 1471 AD Storm of Arrows p. 49 Burgundian, Ordonnance 1471 AD – 1477 AD Storm of Arrows p. 53 Burmese, Medieval 1287 AD to 1500 AD Empires of the Dragon p. 141 Burmese, Pagan 849 AD to 1287 AD Empires of the Dragon p. 98 Buwayhids (Dailami Dynasties) 934 AD – 1055 AD Decline & Fall p. 62 Byzantine, Early 493 AD – 550 AD Decline & Fall p. 6 Byzantine, Komnenan 1071 AD – 1204 AD Swords & Scimitars p. 23 Byzantine, Late 1261 AD – 1461 AD Eternal Empire p. 19 Byzantine, Maurikian 550 AD – 650 AD Decline & Fall p. 22 Byzantine, Nikephorian 963 AD – 1071 AD Decline & Fall p. 72 Byzantine, Post Latin Conquest 1204 AD – 1261 AD Swords & Scimitars p. 46 Byzantine, Thematic 650 AD – 963 AD Decline & Fall p. 38 Caledonian mid 1st cent. AD to early 3rd cent. AD Legions Triumphant p. 45 Carpi 106 AD – 380 AD Legions Triumphant p. 35 Carthaginian, Early 550 BC – 275 BC Immortal Fire p. 24 Carthaginian, Later 275 BC – 146 BC Rise of Rome p. 23 Castile and León 1037 AD – 1350 AD Oath of Fealty p. 21 Castilian, Feudal 1037 AD – 1231 AD Oath of Fealty p. 21 Castilian, Medieval 1350 AD – 1476 AD Storm of Arrows p. 79 Castilian, Santa Hermandad Nueva 1476 AD – 1497 AD Storm of Arrows p. 82 Catalan Company 1302 AD – 1388 AD Eternal Empire p. 43 Catalan, Feudal 988 AD – 1137 AD Oath of Fealty p. 5 Central Asian States 500 AD to 1000 AD Empires of the Dragon p. 62 Champa 600 AD to 1500 AD Empires of the Dragon p. 82 Chinese, Early Tang 618 AD to 755 AD Empires of the Dragon p. 65 Chinese, Early Zhou 1122 BC to 350 BC Empires of the Dragon p. 13 Chinese, Eastern Han 23 AD to 220 AD Empires of the Dragon p. 40 Chinese, Eastern Wei 534 AD to 550 AD Empires of the Dragon p. 52 Chinese, Five Dynasties, Later Han 947 AD to 951 AD Empires of the Dragon p. 77 Chinese, Five Dynasties, Later Jin 936 AD to 947 AD Empires of the Dragon p. 77 Chinese, Five Dynasties, Later Liang 907 AD to 923 AD Empires of the Dragon p. 77 Chinese, Five Dynasties, Later Tang 923 AD to 936 AD Empires of the Dragon p. 77 Chinese, Five Dynasties, Later Zhou 951 AD to 960 AD Empires of the Dragon p. 77 Chinese, Jin 1113 AD to 1234 AD Empires of the Dragon p. 115 Chinese, Late Tang 755 AD to 907 AD Empires of the Dragon p. 77 Chinese, Ming 1356 AD to 1500 AD Empires of the Dragon p. 144 Chinese, Northern Dynasties, Sixteen Kingdoms 304 AD to 439 AD Empires of the Dragon p. 52 Chinese, Northern Song 960 AD to 1127 AD Empires of the Dragon p. 105 this is only one page of the total list if you want to take a look at all of iit you can find it here: http://www.slitherine.com/files/fog/rankings.htmlWhat on earth am I doing Basically when ever I feel like writing I will basically post my expierences/ museings on list, games, strtages ect. So chime in if you wnat and if your intrested talk with me at the meetings -Ghost_nappa
[ Edited Mon Mar 01 2010, 04:35PM ] "Americans love to fight. All real Americans love the sting of battle. " "Americans play to win at all times. I wouldn't give a hoot and hell for a man who lost and laughed. That's why Americans have never lost nor ever lose a war." -George S. Patton
Todays Disscusion: Mid Republican Romans So, Romans. These guys are all about foot; and their foot is some of the best in the game. This list is diffrent in the fact that you have to take your foot in "legions". Each leagion has a set number of types of units that can be in it. This limits the power of the battle group as in you can't max out on one thing. But it gives all of the battle groups the ablity to be usefull in any situtation. The cavalry that the romans have as core troops are very poor. They have only light spear/ and swordsmen. These two ablities are not near as good as Lancer/ swordsmen because they can't help your foot except by scaring off light foot. This list has the ablity to down grade and upgrade your legions is an intresting option but I would only upgrade. Wehn you look at the allies of this they are what give this list the flexiblity it needs to surive out of period. But it is hugely limited in numbers. The kinght and lance based horse is the bane of foot list like this that don't have much spear capablity. Strengths: core troops are drilled ( better at mauvering and responding to enemies moves) access to a large amount of superior and elite troop options. lots of small battle groups make it easyer to move around and increase your overall break limit very strong when played to its strengths and the opponet plays along weakness the hastati and principes do not have the skilled swordsmen POA (makes them better in melee) lots of small battle groups that could be wiped out easily very little shooting or cavalry one dimentional army in general very limited allies Sample army list c-in-c troop commander troop commander field commander field commander 1hastati/principes HF Armoured Average Drilled Impact Foot Swordsmen 8 2hastati/principes HF Armoured Average Drilled Impact Foot Swordsmen 8 3triarii HF Armoured Superior Drilled Offensive Spearmen 4 4velites LF Unprotected Average Drilled Javelins Light Spear 8 5hastati/principes HF Armoured Average Drilled Impact Foot Swordsmen 8 6hastati/principes HF Armoured Average Drilled Impact Foot Swordsmen 8 7 triarii HF Armoured Superior Drilled Offensive Spearmen 4 8velites LF Unprotected Average Drilled Javelins Light Spear 8 9 cavalry CV Armoured Average Undrilled Light spear Swordsmen 4 10cavalry CV Armoured Average Undrilled Light spear Swordsmen 4 11cretan archers LF Unprotected Superior Drilled Bow 6 This is a very basic 800 point army list. General Tactics This list is a very begginer friendly list. You put the cavalry on the wings to protect your flanks, the legions in the middle and the cretan archers in front to try to ward away their skirmishers. The hard part comes with teh general infantry advance. One must try to get flank charges with this list becsue you don't have a lot of bases but they are spread out in a large amound of battle groups os use that advantage to flank. closing Well I hope that you readers have found iths first "episode" intresting. If you are wondering I can't really teach you how to play in this "blog" but I will talk about taicts and such. If you would like to learn more about the mid-republican romans wiki saves the day: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Republic "Americans love to fight. All real Americans love the sting of battle. " "Americans play to win at all times. I wouldn't give a hoot and hell for a man who lost and laughed. That's why Americans have never lost nor ever lose a war." -George S. Patton
Today's Topic Light horse Light horse are the lightly armed raiders of the acient/ medieval age. To be usefull in my opnion they must have bows. Altho generally they probably won't do much damage with their bow, think as any distruption as bonous. Really their use is to "march block" the opponet and try to get his shock troops to chase them around the table. Because a battle group must react to an opponents battle group with in 2 inches you can force the oponetto move in a cretian way while not risking your light horse because they can evade and are fast. The general conceus between players is that lone of the best uses of Light horse is to lead your opponets knights around the table on a wild goose chase their-by removing them from the battle proper. But as a note of caution, archers like picking on Light horse if the light horse have short range weapons. Finally as to list construction; the Light horse is very cheep so they are very good for padding your battle group count and taking up table space so you can slow down an on table flanking manuver. "Americans love to fight. All real Americans love the sting of battle. " "Americans play to win at all times. I wouldn't give a hoot and hell for a man who lost and laughed. That's why Americans have never lost nor ever lose a war." -George S. Patton
Well its been a long time but I'm back with another FOG post.
Today I want to tuch on something that I just encountered in my second game of FOG. It was later Polish vers my nikopherain (ps?) byzantines. The ploes won handlidy becasue of a solid plan, and the tech advantage. This brings up the question, how much is the tech advantage? It seems taht when the Knights have a + in impact and mellee vs. almost half of may army I am servelry hamstringed. It seems taht logically the more advanced tech will be better that the older tech but in our open gaming group will there be a race to the battom? By this I mean that only the most recent lst or the best units will be used? This is wahat is called Metagaming. And I do it a lot. Really I am going to take pikes over swordsmen any dday becasuse they are just beter. Also I would take Knights over normal lancers any day. The biggest problem that I see in my FOG group is the fact that we have a very large dictomy of players. 2 have no wargaming expierence : and will most lickley play historicall "pure". One played 40k and just wants something else. and one played FOw and is more concerned with "power gaming" than historical accuracy. A power gammer is someone who will take the best options, and plays to win. And I think that in my gaming group Fog could die very rapidlly becasue of slow play and the sharp learning curve becasue if you don't play pperflectly aginst some force you have no chance of winning. But we will see how our meta game evolves as the two other playres get their armies on line and our meta game picks up. but While that happens I will be tryiing to berak down FOG and try to pull out a win. see ya next time! Ghost_Nappa "Americans love to fight. All real Americans love the sting of battle. " "Americans play to win at all times. I wouldn't give a hoot and hell for a man who lost and laughed. That's why Americans have never lost nor ever lose a war." -George S. Patton
Yeah, I know about Bluegrass Gamers and Albrights. My name is Reuben Fleming.
To come back to this thread; Field of Glory Renaissance is going to come out next month. I believe I will be doing a "from scratch" tactics tailing off of this thread. So we will have to wait until next month to see what comes.
If you want more information on FOG AM a very good battle report and wiki is madaxeman, just gogle it. "Americans love to fight. All real Americans love the sting of battle. " "Americans play to win at all times. I wouldn't give a hoot and hell for a man who lost and laughed. That's why Americans have never lost nor ever lose a war." -George S. Patton
